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First 3 Things | Availability | Barrel Channels | Action Measurements | Cartridge Guide
Rem 700 | Ruger 77 | Savage 10/110 | Win 70 | Mausers

You must check for safety, fit and function on every aftermarket stock installed. Safety is the primary consideration! Although we strive to achieve it NEVER assume it will be a perfect fit out of the box. Every individual gun is a law unto itself.

Check out our discussion of Choosing Your Stock once you determine the important information outlined below.

General Discussion
Welcome to the world of custom stocks! We have designed this entire business around promoting the safe use of firearms by enhancing the enjoyment the average person can expect to receive from getting more involved with his or her rifles and shotguns. By making them more comfortable to shoot, more suitable for the intended usage, more accurate and far more attractive we can take this sport out of the black plastic realm it has been stuck in and into a far more friendly and useful era. Everything we sell is designed to be installed in an evening or two at home with very little, if any, difficulty for the average hobbyist.

To this goal, unless otherwise indicated, all of the gunstocks we sell are designed to be a "drop-in fit." It must be noted however that due to the normal variations among models as well as certain tolerances that factories may or may not routinely adhere to, some minor fitting and/or additional parts may be required to achieve the desired results. Like most of us that take immense pride in crafting and owning a truly self-customized firearm, we hope you view this as an enjoyable and often necessary part of the refinement process. Although they are not always necessary and we take great care to achieve a drop in fit out of the box you must be willing to make them if necessary when your new stock arrives. Some of the more common adjustments required are discussed on our Fitting / Bedding page and are included in the box with every stock purchased.

First three things you need to know before you buy or inquire about a new stock:

  1. Is it a long or short action?
    If you have a .223, .243, 6mm, .257, .308 or similar length cartridge you most likely have a short action. Conversely, the .25-06, .270, .280, .30-06, 7mm Mag, .300 Mag, .300 RUM, 8mm Mag, .338 Mag, .375 H&H or similar you may have a Long Action rifle. Please refer to the photos and discussion below and be sure to take a minute to measure.
  2. How do you unload your magazine? 
    If you cannot remember, be sure it's unloaded, turn your gun over and look. On a bolt action, is there a Detatchable Box/Clip Magazine, Hinged Floorplate or is it 'Blind' (wood underside)? Lever guns and some automatics have tubular magazines, that is the cartridges are held in a tube parrallel to the barrel.
  3. What kind of barrel does it have?
    Is it a Featherweight? Standard Sporter? Magnum? Sendaro? Varmint? Police? Bull Barrel? Need to know before stock selection as the width of the forend will vary.

Availability
Not all guns have aftermarket stocks widely available. You might also not be aware that many of the stocks we carry are only carved once or twice per year - if that! It often happens that we, as American consumers, assume a retailer's products are always available in bottomless bins. In this world of mass-produced foreign imports please bear in mind that the gunstocks we sell are more unique than that. They are hand crafted by sportsmen like you right here in the USA. In other words they made to our (or your) order, not stamped out on machines and stockpiled in warehouses. Due to prevailing conditions we do our best to be sure they are the best on the market, but the one you have your sights set on may or may not be available very far into the future. Git 'em while we got 'em!

Not a day goes by we don't get calls to fit many fine yet impossible arms. Let's go over a few things to help make a little sense out of it all. Stocky's concept here is not to outfit every obsolete rifle out there. It is more mainstream than that - it's a place to accessorise your modern firearm with an emphasis on apperance, function and accuracy. It's not only a shooting match any more. You may as well admit it to yourself right now, you care as much as we do that it looks as good as it shoots! (We won't tell anybody.)

Please use the following table as a rule of thumb guide - simply provided for your convenience.
Be sure to double check all model numbers and availibility on the main site because they can and do change.
Manufacturer & Model
Wood / Laminate Availability
Carbelite Availability
Medalist Availability
Remington 700's - perfect aftermarket accessorizing arm. Thousands of parts on the market and more every day. JRS Classics, , CDL Classics, Ross Thumbholes, Varmint Thumbholes, Long Range Sporter Thumbholes, Long Range Varmint Thumbholes Several Sporters, #2091 Varmint/Tactical #2960/2963 Sporters, Several Varmint/Tacticals, Several Alaskan Ultralights
Weatherby Vanguard / Howa 1500 - almost as good as the 700's right now. Ross Thumbholes, Varmint Thumbholes, Long Range Sporter Thumbholes, Long Range Varmint Thumbholes #5081/5082 Weatherby O.E.M / Many Choices
Winchester 70s - very nice selection, finally. Be sure of floorplate style. JRS Classics (2 pc fp's), Ross Thumbholes 9blind mags & 2pc fp's) Pre and Post 64 available for 2 pc floorplates. Use the #7775/7776 and buy a 1 pc floorplate!
Mauser Large Ring (1898) - many choices but be prepared for modifications. JRS Classics, Ross Thumbholes and Varmint Thumbholes

5051- Mauser 98 (no bolt cut)
5152- Interarms Mini MK X
5111- Interarms MK X (Rem 798)

2193-Mauser 98 (no bolt cut)
2197-Mauser Medalist MK X
  2948-Mauser 98 Varmint/Tactical
Savage 10's and 110's - O.K. if your rifle is 3+ years old, newer short action guns hard to fit (see below). JRS Classics, Ross Thumbholes and Varmint Thumbholes   5071- Savage 110-116 Blind Magazine
  5072- Savage 10-16 Blind Magazine
Check out the DuraMaxx for Bull Barrels
Short Action Only
#2999 Varmint/Tactical
Weatherby MkVs - since Bell & Carlson makes Weatherby O.E.M. stocks there's a good selection but few laminates. Ross Thumbholes when we can get them. Right and Left hand available Weatherby O.E.M / Many Choices
Thumbhole RH & LH available
Remington 710/770 NOT AVAILABLE
Remington 788 Unfinished Semi Inlet Ross Thumbholes N/A N/A
Ruger 77 (Old Tang Safety Model) Unfinished Semi Inlet Ross Thumbholes rarely available (assume not) #5031/5032 No Medalists but there's a Premier Thumbhole Long Action
Ruger 77 Mark 2 (Safety on Bolt) JRS Classics, Ross Thumbholes Right and Left Hand Available N/A
Mauser Small Ring (1896) JRS Classics, Ross Thumbholes #5251 Swedish w/Step Channel #2194
Obsolete Militaria
(P17 Enfields / '03 Springfields Etc)
N/A See Bell & Carlson Carbelites N/A
Remingtons Model Seven/660s/ 600s Rarely Available #5092 N/A
Early Sakos (AII, III,V,L579, L61) N/A See Bell & Carlson Carbelites N/A
Modern Sakos, Tikkas and other Europeans NOT AVAILABLE
Remington 870 Decent availability of thumbhole butts standard or raised comb for slug guns N/A
Remington 7600/760 use 870 20 ga buttstock, forends few and far between but do get them   #6618/6648 N/A
Remington 7400/742 use 870 20 ga buttstock, forends few and far between but do get them #6608 N/A
All other 2 pc Rifle & Shotgun Stocks N/A Carbelite Rifle 
Carbelite Shotgun 
N/A
Browning ABolts Eclipse (Limited Edition) Thumbholes #5131 If you have a WSM or WSSM get the #7778/7779. Standard Short Actions will work also with new screws. Long actions get #2131.
Browning BBRs NOT AVAILABLE

Common Terms & Abbreviations

Action Inlet:
Inletting is a term applied to woodworking that refers to the cut-out that lets something to fit into it. Just as water flows into an inlet in the land, so should a piece of metal, in this case a rifle's barrelled action, fit into the wood or synthetic material being used as a handle with which to operate it. So a stock is inlet for a particular action, action length (referred to simply as "long" and "short" versions), magazine style and barrel weight.

Barrel Channels (in order of thickness, use as a rule-of-thumb guide)
See our Barrel Contours page for more common measurements.

    • Featherweight / Mountain / Compact - generally the lightest weight version of a rifle, skinny barrel.
    • Sporter - the most common version of most sporting rifles - standard weight barrel.
    • FBC - Factory Barrel Channel (generic for one size fits all) fits sporters and magnums. Mags could sometimes use a very light sanding.
    • Mag (magnum) - some manufacturers use a slightly heavier barrel (0.03" average) on magnum cartridges.
    • Sendaro - fluted barrel on Remington 700 "Sendaros is the same taper as their varmint barrel.
    • Varmint - not quite a bull, but getting there; called BBC by the stock makers.
    • BBC - Bull Barrel Channel; misnomer - what they mean is the stock is cut for the heaviest barrels available from the factory on a particular model
    • Bull Barrel- strictly speaking this is a straight cylinder, usually 1.250" in diameter. Most BBC stocks will take a full bull but you will have to do the fitting.

What you need to know about barrel channels :

  1. If you have a featherweight, compact or mountain rifle it will not look too great in a sporter stock. It will not be centered in the barrel channel (see below) Buy a stock that was designed for it. If there are no stocks made for it only option is an FBC with a full length bedding job.
  2. When the only option is a sporter barrel channel (i.e. the B&C 2963) it is really easy to fit a magnum. Heavy barrels and custom Palma tapers will not work however.
  3. You cannot fit a varmint barrel into any sporter stock we know of unless you are willing to give up the 'flats' on the top of the forend. We do not recommend this.
  4. Laminated stocks cut for the FBC are drop-ins for standard cartridges and usually drop-ins (albeit tight) for magnums when the factory concerned used a magnum barrel contour (Remington for example). We would suggest spending spending 10 minutes on the barrel channel with some 100 grit but hey, that's us.
  5. Free floated barrels are never centered in the barrel channel. It's not the stock's fault. That is the real reason the factories put those pressure pads in the forend and Savage has been gluing barrels to their stocks. Do a quality bedding job that supports the first 2 inches of barrel and center it yourself.
  6. Remington fluted sporters are magnum tapers and take the same stocks.
  7. Remington Sendaros are varmint tapers and take the same stocks.

Do not use the model number, serial number, numbers stamped on the box or what your buddy told you to buy your new stock! You must follow the simple instructions or you may make a mistake. If you own a Savage short action you must measure your takedown screw spacing as well.

If you do not see your model listed check out our Cross Reference & Interchangability Guide
Manufacturer & Model
Short Action
Long Action
Browning A-Bolt 7 3/16" 7 7/8"
Howa/Weatherby 7 1/4" 7 3/4"
Ruger 77* 7 3/4" 8/1/4"
Ruger 77 MK II* 7 5/8” 8 3/8”
Savage 10** 7 1/4" or 7 3/8" (see below) see 110
Savage 110** 7 1/2" (no stocks available) 8"
Remington 700*** 6 1/2" 7 3/8"
Remington 788 6 3/4" 7"
Winchester 70**** 7 1/8” 7 5/8”
     

action lengths***Remington Bolt Action Rifles:

A 700 is a 700, only differences are the action length, LH or RH and bottom metal. They don't make a different receiver for the various versions. VLS, XCR, SPS, AWR etc are new designations for the original hinged-floorplate BDL. They don't make production ADL's any more, they use an inexpensive finish and bottom metal and call it an SPS.

Rem 700 ADL - Designed with trigger guard only; blind magazine.
Rem 700 BDL - Designed with hinged floorplate assembly. Includes SPS, XCR, VLS and any other hinged floorplate 700 rifle for our purposes.
Rem 700 CDL - Identical to BDL.
Rem 700 DBM - Identical to BDL except has slots in the side of the stock to accomodate magazine release buttons. You can file these slots yourself (see below). They are easily converted to a BDL.
Rem 700 SPS - Identical to BDL. These replaced the ADL in Remingtons product line but they take BDL stocks. Remington's site states they replaced the ADL, not that they are an ADL. They take BDL stocks. Please note they are available with sporter and varmint weight barrels.

That triangular barrel is a varminter with the sides simply flattened, takes the same stocks.

Since there's no forend barrel channel on the Knoxx Axioms per se, barrel weight matters not. Check out our First 3 Things discussion also.

Remington 798 are Interarms Mauser 98's and take the same stocks.

Remington 788 action lengths are not standard, be sure to pay attention to the list.

Remington 710 and 770 stocks are only available from Remington. They attach the recoil lug to the stock not the receiver so it is unlikely anyone will make a stock for it. Get a 700 if you want to customize.

Rem 721/722 rifles can be fitted to BDL stocks using existing parts or converted to ADL/BDL/CDL versions with updated parts. Stocky recommends you stash the old bottom metal (or sell it to a collector) and upgrade to an ADL or BDL.

Conversion between floorplate versions (i.e. BDL) and blind magazine versions (i.e. ADL) are easily accomplished from Remington (or Winchester and Savage for that matter) for about $50 to $150. Contact us or the manufacturer for parts.

Detachable Box Magazine stocks are easily fashioned from BDL stocks by simply filing the slots for the magazine release buttons (see photo) and retouching the area to match. Detachable mag-fed rifles are also convertable to non-clip-fed guns and vice-versa. In fact all Remington rifles are convertable (i.e. ADL > BDL > CDL > DBM, etc.) by simply purchasing the appropriate parts.

*Ruger 77 and 77 MK II - Measure the full length of the trigger guard. The older M77 safety is on the tang behind the bolt. The newer M77 Mark II safety is on the bolt itself. These stocks are not normally considered interchangable but there are those that claim to have done it.

NOTE: SAVAGE 2-digit (i.e. Model 10 or 12) SOME SHORT ACTION STOCKS ARE AVAILABLE FOR 4.27" (4 1/4") TAKEDOWN SCREW SPACING AND OTHERS FOR THE 4.40" (4 3/8") SCREW SPACING. THESE ARE THE FRONT 2 SCREWS, THE MAIN ONES THAT HOLD THE STOCK ON THE RECEIVER, MEASURED CENTER-TO-CENTER ON THE HOLES IN THE RECEIVER. SAVAGE CHANGED THEIR DESIGN A FEW YEARS AGO SO IF YOU HAVE A NEW GUN IT IS LIKELY 4.40". THERE IS NO WAY TO TELL FROM MODEL NUMBER OR SERIAL NUMBER, THE ONLY WAY TO BE SURE IS TO MEASURE. PLEASE BE SURE YOU ORDER THE CORRECT STOCK, VERY FEW STOCKS ARE AVAILABLE BOTH WAYS SO PLEASE PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE SPECS PRIOR TO ORDERING.

    Here's more facts for your Savage:
  • The older design internal magazine box has a staggered feed magazine sleeve that is attached to the receiver.
  • The newer design internal magazine box has a center feed magazine sleeve that is not attached to the receiver
    and is held in place by the stock.
  • The newer Detachable Box Magaine system has a center feed detachable magazine box.

Savage Clip (C) and Detatchable Box Magazine (DBM) Versions:
Button Style:
This is the one with the button on the side of the stock. There's no longer any stocks available for these 110C models but you might try calling Savage parts directly. DBM Style: The newer Savages feature a DBM similar to Remington's and we now offer an HS Precision Tactical PST118 that will fit them IF yours is on the 4.40" screw spacing.

Winchester 70 Pre-64 very few stocks on the market but there is a Bell & Carlson #5141 that is useful. Yes, it has the barrel band cut w/ swivel stud hole. We strongly recommend the Decelerator pad upgrade.

Winchester 70 Post-64

  • All receivers are the same regardless of classic, XTR, push feed, etc..Prior to 1985 all were long action regardless of chambering so be sure to measure if in doubt.
  • There are three floorplate configurations: Simply remove your takedown screws to discover what you have.
    1. Blind Magazine (we have laminated stocks).One-piece floorplates (Super Grades and recent USRA production runs).
    2. Two-piece floorplates (99% of the rifles out there, see below) .

Many stocks (Boyds laminates, Bell & Carlson, HS Precision, etc.) are cut for the 2 pc floorplates available from http://www.winchesterguns.com/services/parts/terms.asp. The 2 piecers were the most popular configuration from like 1965 thru the '90s. If you have a 1pc. floorplate or no floorplate at all on your gun you may need to buy parts to use your preferred stock or indeed to even get a new stock at all. Get the trigger guard (#26), magazine cover (#30), magazine box (#24), plus the magazine spring (#102) & cartridge follower (#101) for a complete conversion. Estimated cost is about $75 to $100 complete. They no longer sell these parts in quantities to gunsmiths so you need to get them yourself. Here's the schematic M70Part.pdf (900K) click it and look for the items highlighted in yellow listed above.

****Winchester 70 Super Short Action = 6 1/2". Winchester Super Short Magnums will NOT work with Standard Winchester SA stocks. Please contact us for availability.

Use this list as a Rule-Of-Thumb only because there is some variation:

SHORT ACTION
LONG ACTION
17 REMINGTON
25-06 REMINGTON
221 FIREBALL
270 WINCHESTER
223 REMINGTON (5.56 NATO)
7x57MM MAUSER
22-250 REMINGTON
280 WINCHESTER
220 SWIFT
7MM REMINGTON MAG
6MM REMINGTON
7MM WEATHERBY MAG
243 WINCHESTER
30-06 SPRINGFIELD
257 ROBERTS
300 WINCHESTER MAG
6.5x55MM SWEEDISH MAUSER
300 WEATHERBY MAG
270 WINCHESTER SHORT MAG (WSM)
300 REMINGTON ULTRA MAG (RUM)
7MM-08 REMINGTON
338 WINCHESTER MAG
308 WINCHESTER (7.62 NATO)
375 H & H
300 REM SHORT ACTION ULTRA MAG (SAUM)
405 WINCHESTER
444 MARLIN
458 WINCHESTER MAG
450 MARLIN
458 LOTT

Mauser Designations

Mauser IllustrationMauser bolt action rifles have been produced for over 100 years in a wide variety of calibers, from many manufacturing plants all over the world. Most of these guns have several critical dimensions in common, allowing us to group them as Small Ring, Yugo and Large Ring Mausers.

  1. Small Ring Mauser - Receiver measures 1 1/4” on the front receiver ring and 7 5/8” center to center on the trigger guard screws. Fits most models: 93, 94, 95 & 96 rifles and carbines.
  2. Large Ring Mauser - Receiver measures 1 3/8” on the front receiver ring and 7 7/8” center to center on the trigger guard screws. Includes most large ring actions as well as the Centurion FN, Parker Hale 1200, and the Santa Barbara. 98 bolt channels must be rasped in.
  3. Yugo Mauser - Receiver measures 1 3/8" on the front receiver ring and 7 5/8" center to center on the action screws. Includes M48, M48a & M24 Yugoslavian. Bolt cut will also need to be rasped in.

Note: Minor fitting may be required on Mauser stocks due to the wide variety of Mauser actions available.

 

Barrel We will typically specify a narrow #1 contour barrel channel as below for all Mausers. This way everyone can use them as most barrels are bigger. Steps, bands and custom tapers must be hand fitted.
BARREL
A
B
C
D
E
F
WT.
Contour No. 1
Lightweight Sporter
24" 1.140" 2" 2" .850" .550" 2 lbs
11oz

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